There will be no Ukraine in a few years. Every penny “invested” that doesn’t get kicked back under the table may as well be lit on fire, and by forcing Russia to develop a symmetric capability far from the conflict zone that cannot be destroyed by any weapons that Europe has or could hope to have they are creating a massive power differential that can only end with yet another stunning defeat once the time comes for Europe to actually attack.
And attack they will. The result will be the same as every other time: total defeat and another century of hate culminating with yet another suicide by cop. They are incapable of backing down because it will mean the end of these politicians.
Expect continuous “accidents” at these new facilities. And in Ukraine the Russians will wait until the full investment has been made and the plant is about to produce a finished product and bomb it to dust with all of the skilled laborers inside. Anyone underwriting these loans is a fucking idiot, and that pretty much describes Europe these days.
Truly insightful article that has finally helped me understand why the Euro elites keep pushing the war despite it being obvious that Ukraine was getting creamed. I had a vague notion that it was about the dire economic situation Europe is in but the way you have synthesized all the information to provide a crisp clear explanation is excellent. The immorality of our elites really knows no bounds.
"The EU is still importing the majority of its military products, heavily benefiting the US and non-EU states like Turkey" - this is ultimately the reason the US pressured EU to rotate its future government spending power so heavily into defense. The actual impact to EU defense firms are essentially kickbacks for the Atlanticist milieu. Big ticket items like aerospace will be US based.
Already the war already sent the generation of military hardware of late 20th-century vintage into retirement by obsolescence or often physical destruction.
The effect on budget balance also locks in future austerity, ie under investment in people and infrastructure.
The ratios of job creation described are especially enlightening.
The same flawed argument again...Russia would NEVER have invaded if Ukraine had NATO Article 5 "protection"...but just the same, Russia will invade NATO after Ukraine, Article 5 be damned 🤣 This is an infantile assessment.
If the British are defied “Then they shall knock on every door, purse in Hand.” - Frederick The Great. Prussian King during the Seven Years War, for which he received enormous British Subsidies. As did the Colonial Militias in America, subsidizing 40% of the costs (trying clawing it back sparked revolution).
The subsidy and arming of allies is Anglo then American policy for centuries, see also Lend Lease.
Correct, well analysed and sourced. In Europe we are replacing one metal product with a new metal product, however if you look at USA and China, the technology companies are leading the board of top 50 most valued companies.
This is exactly what USA wants - if we burry our head into defence production, but still we are allowed to only produce low added value products (ammunition, tanks) because US wants us to use their F35, satellites etc, we shift our focus and resource out from technology, AI, computing power etc which US with China wants to dominate.
It is a trap which we are voluntarily running into, holding the Ukrainian flag and shouting - we, the group of willing will save the humanity and democracy in Europe. Whereas 2 largest economical engines, US and China does not give a damn about those values.
The purpose of this article is ostensibly to answer the question, “Why is Europe all-in on Ukraine?” But it does nothing of the sort. It goes into endless detail about WHAT is happening, but does nothing to answer WHY it is happening. Yes, it's obvious that manufacturing for private sector goods is being trashed, while simultaneously manufacturing for the military has been ramped up. Those two efforts go hand-in-hand, with Ukraine as some peripheral excuse. But why such an overall agenda was deliberately imposed is not addressed. Why the hatred for Russia? Why the Eurocrat hatred of their own damn people? Why why why? I have my own explanations, but it would have been nice to hear another perspective. Oh well, description masquerading as explanation is certainly de rigueur across the commentariat. It sells articles, and keeps the masses of midwits mollified. Nulla est solutio stultitiae. And so it goes....
Eric, did you miss the prominent through line of "to stave off economic decline?" I think I was more than explicit enough with this.
The rest of the explanation, and there is much more to it than just the economic angle, goes into the realm of speculation. It's worth examining but it's a very different kind of analysis. I actually have a draft I'm working on where I attempt to break down the political and business connections of various war hawk European leaders, but it's a much harder piece to write, because so much of that is deep under the surface.
I don't know why you'd ascribe bad faith intentions here, I'm certainly not making an effort to "mollify the masses" by breaking down how Europe is profiting off the deaths of thousands.
I am getting the impression that all those big contracts and staggering amounts of money spent are just that - money (or rather fake digital ones and zeroes) being slushed around in a cauldron of European / Ukrain corruption. This being the same "money" printed by the ECB since 2008 (and certainly since the crisis on the repo market in 2019, for which the Covid crisis was instigated). It sure won't arrive in the 'real' economy (the one where you and I work and buy groceries), but it does need somewhere to go, hence insane profits on the stock markets. It will sure make some people in industry and governments very rich, but I very much doubt whether it will lead to a defense industry that is capable of producing the tech and the amounts required to actually win this war (or any war).
You do realize what you commented is what the article was all about. You must have missed the part about 600,000 germans laid off, no physical benefit to the countries themselves, that it is all an elaborate elite scheme in the end
There will be no Ukraine in a few years. Every penny “invested” that doesn’t get kicked back under the table may as well be lit on fire, and by forcing Russia to develop a symmetric capability far from the conflict zone that cannot be destroyed by any weapons that Europe has or could hope to have they are creating a massive power differential that can only end with yet another stunning defeat once the time comes for Europe to actually attack.
And attack they will. The result will be the same as every other time: total defeat and another century of hate culminating with yet another suicide by cop. They are incapable of backing down because it will mean the end of these politicians.
Expect continuous “accidents” at these new facilities. And in Ukraine the Russians will wait until the full investment has been made and the plant is about to produce a finished product and bomb it to dust with all of the skilled laborers inside. Anyone underwriting these loans is a fucking idiot, and that pretty much describes Europe these days.
Simplicius and Events In Ukraine have written about your comments at length, agreed.
Super good analysis
This is important, clear and information-rich. Well done.
Anyone still unaware that some people just love war and intend to get it should read this.
Truly insightful article that has finally helped me understand why the Euro elites keep pushing the war despite it being obvious that Ukraine was getting creamed. I had a vague notion that it was about the dire economic situation Europe is in but the way you have synthesized all the information to provide a crisp clear explanation is excellent. The immorality of our elites really knows no bounds.
"The EU is still importing the majority of its military products, heavily benefiting the US and non-EU states like Turkey" - this is ultimately the reason the US pressured EU to rotate its future government spending power so heavily into defense. The actual impact to EU defense firms are essentially kickbacks for the Atlanticist milieu. Big ticket items like aerospace will be US based.
Already the war already sent the generation of military hardware of late 20th-century vintage into retirement by obsolescence or often physical destruction.
The effect on budget balance also locks in future austerity, ie under investment in people and infrastructure.
The ratios of job creation described are especially enlightening.
Because if Russia wins in Ukraine it will invade the next European country in its path? And so on, until it reaches the Atlantic.
Show any evidence of this. I think you are confusing Putin with Ji
Because Eurocuck politicians are retarded and fundamentally out of touch with the voters.
No. They are bought and paid for by the same (((tribe))) that runs and owns the USA like its poodle.
“Because of this, it’s highly unlikely that the EU will tolerate an early conclusion to the war in Ukraine. “
Nonsense Author.
Poland is next.
And Poland probably knows it.
The Russians would love to stop at the Dnipro and will discover- or anticipate already- they won’t even be allowed to stop at the Bug.
The same flawed argument again...Russia would NEVER have invaded if Ukraine had NATO Article 5 "protection"...but just the same, Russia will invade NATO after Ukraine, Article 5 be damned 🤣 This is an infantile assessment.
If the British are defied “Then they shall knock on every door, purse in Hand.” - Frederick The Great. Prussian King during the Seven Years War, for which he received enormous British Subsidies. As did the Colonial Militias in America, subsidizing 40% of the costs (trying clawing it back sparked revolution).
The subsidy and arming of allies is Anglo then American policy for centuries, see also Lend Lease.
Apparently now… Rammstein, call your office…
Correct, well analysed and sourced. In Europe we are replacing one metal product with a new metal product, however if you look at USA and China, the technology companies are leading the board of top 50 most valued companies.
This is exactly what USA wants - if we burry our head into defence production, but still we are allowed to only produce low added value products (ammunition, tanks) because US wants us to use their F35, satellites etc, we shift our focus and resource out from technology, AI, computing power etc which US with China wants to dominate.
It is a trap which we are voluntarily running into, holding the Ukrainian flag and shouting - we, the group of willing will save the humanity and democracy in Europe. Whereas 2 largest economical engines, US and China does not give a damn about those values.
The purpose of this article is ostensibly to answer the question, “Why is Europe all-in on Ukraine?” But it does nothing of the sort. It goes into endless detail about WHAT is happening, but does nothing to answer WHY it is happening. Yes, it's obvious that manufacturing for private sector goods is being trashed, while simultaneously manufacturing for the military has been ramped up. Those two efforts go hand-in-hand, with Ukraine as some peripheral excuse. But why such an overall agenda was deliberately imposed is not addressed. Why the hatred for Russia? Why the Eurocrat hatred of their own damn people? Why why why? I have my own explanations, but it would have been nice to hear another perspective. Oh well, description masquerading as explanation is certainly de rigueur across the commentariat. It sells articles, and keeps the masses of midwits mollified. Nulla est solutio stultitiae. And so it goes....
Eric, did you miss the prominent through line of "to stave off economic decline?" I think I was more than explicit enough with this.
The rest of the explanation, and there is much more to it than just the economic angle, goes into the realm of speculation. It's worth examining but it's a very different kind of analysis. I actually have a draft I'm working on where I attempt to break down the political and business connections of various war hawk European leaders, but it's a much harder piece to write, because so much of that is deep under the surface.
I don't know why you'd ascribe bad faith intentions here, I'm certainly not making an effort to "mollify the masses" by breaking down how Europe is profiting off the deaths of thousands.
So basically it's all corruption designed to make us poorer and <1% of the people very very rich.
I am getting the impression that all those big contracts and staggering amounts of money spent are just that - money (or rather fake digital ones and zeroes) being slushed around in a cauldron of European / Ukrain corruption. This being the same "money" printed by the ECB since 2008 (and certainly since the crisis on the repo market in 2019, for which the Covid crisis was instigated). It sure won't arrive in the 'real' economy (the one where you and I work and buy groceries), but it does need somewhere to go, hence insane profits on the stock markets. It will sure make some people in industry and governments very rich, but I very much doubt whether it will lead to a defense industry that is capable of producing the tech and the amounts required to actually win this war (or any war).
So same as Russia then
These Reasons You Give!
IS PURE BULLSHIT!!!
The European Peoples Are Being Deliberately IMPOVERISHED! NAZIFIED And WEAPONISED!!!
By The Evil Cult That Now Dominate The European Elite!!!
You do realize what you commented is what the article was all about. You must have missed the part about 600,000 germans laid off, no physical benefit to the countries themselves, that it is all an elaborate elite scheme in the end
Well researched and well written. But, implications are dire because this means the war will carry on for years