The Ukronazis also are able to look like Americans or Europeans and, unlike any of the other groups you mentioned, have an ideology that can easily appeal to disgruntled and marginalised men in the US and EU.
There is a sign on a restaurant called Dacha in SF,I saw today , with the colours of Ukraine sic or a flag. That reads something like, Stand with Ukraine, or we support Ukraine , whenever I see any kind of sickening flags of Ukraine, sometimes freshly replaced. I have to ask myself, what exactly do they mean by that?
Then too didn't illenskies in one of his countless cocaine crazed rants threaten something exactly like what you wrote this article about, blowback, whatever he called it...
Finally, tis no mystery that and why the West supoorta this sort of behavior, they clearly want it to occur , like all the false flags , those who Let It Happen On Purpose, LIHOP, clearly hope to get some benefits, like passing legislation that would otherwise have been unthinkable....
Unthinkable was an operation against Russia , or to keep the Nazies operating, against Russia.
Or maybe to explode nukes in Russia...
I am no research scholar, but the shit smells bad and stinky and sticks to ones spirit
I have been noticing an uptick in the stab in back thinking amongst Ukrainian cadres and military bloggers. Sometimes explicit but always an implicit tinge to commentary as things visibly worsen on the battle front. Typically acknowledging the skill and competency of the enemy and their own plight while expressing disgust at western authorities saying that Ukrainian forces are overwhelming the Russians.
Great piece, I'd never heard of the ARVN stuff. Re: US support for Ukrainian nationalists, it actually began as early as 1943 - far before the end of the war - per Jeffrey Burds (see his article : "The Early Cold War in Soviet West Ukraine, 1944–1948"). Also, your link for Ukrainian spies being inserted into Cuba redirects straight back to this stack. Do you have a source for that cause I'd love to read it.
As we speak, there is an ongoing purge of several top Zelensky cronies in Kiev - done by means of the US/NATO controlled NABU (Ukraine's national anti-corruption bureau).
Perhaps we shouldn't be surprised that this "housecleaning" totally bypasses the ultranationalist wing of the power structure.
To be totally clear, these are violent ideologues who idolize murderous WWII war criminals such as Bandera/Shukhevich. They glorify the early days of their movement when they were Nazi-collaborators, embrace white supremacist ideology and terrorist methods. Such is the consistent pattern of who it is the US picks as proxies.
More likely, we can expect the State Dept will promise these thugs a ticket to the states and a comfy retirement, if they should lose the war. Just like the examples above. Their mission today is very simply to prolong the conflict until Ukraine's exhaustion, since the US, NATO, and EU have no intention whatever to provide manpower at scale. A settlement, even a fraudulent one like a Minsk III, might be embarrassing to the US. Ukraine's exhaustion will come sooner or later, and the promise to bring home these criminal "operators" will have to be fulfilled.
Of course present day US gov is already adopting an overtly fascist form - with barely trained DHS goons summarily detaining people who they reckon look different from themselves. They're supporting genocide in broad daylight in Gaza. So one shouldn't expect even the tiniest concern by today's decision makers.
I suppose people outside the US thinking of moving here, who aren't criminals themselves, should think twice.
This a seminal piece of research. Impressive. I think you missed to say a word about the triple A, the anticommunist league and some others. They are certainly still active.
UCSD Prof. Chal Johnson's "Blowback" trilogy comes to mind - been a very long time since I read those. The first book was published in 2000. One of my grad school profs was influenced by Chal's work, and mentioned him in seminars, which is how I first heard of him.
RF and PRC I'm sure are extremely aware of the danger of "post-conflict" (when is that? I don't see the conflict ending for the next 75 years, at least - it might go into LIC, a la Kashmir, but I don't see it ending. And that does not include Gladio, P2, and those kinds of activities - that stuff will go on forever" "black on black", "black on white") of large pools of aggrieved men basically causing mayhem and chaos all over the world, for some combination of M.I.C.E.R+.
The interesting thing about all the examples in the article, though, is that the continental US (+ Hawaii) has not yet paid a very high price, other than 9/11 (and leaving aside LIHOP, MIHOP, etc.). Moreover, the faction(s) of elites currently calling (most of) the shots are not affected even if there are some lives lost, some disruption, etc. It does not impact their daily lives, and some level of disorder/chaos even continually increases their net worth.
This crew, it seems to me, takes the approach of "let's have them inside the tent pissing out" - so pay them generously to sow chaos and mayhem outside the US; keep a close eye on all the players, especially the leaders/smart ones; terminate the ones that go rogue and/or who want/try to do anything in the US. Of course, there will always be some "leakage". When it happens, there are a variety of options: (a) claim it was a Muslim terrorist; (b) Russian/pro-Russian terrorist; (c) disgruntled postal worker/other.
Excellent piece, well worth saving!
The Ukronazis also are able to look like Americans or Europeans and, unlike any of the other groups you mentioned, have an ideology that can easily appeal to disgruntled and marginalised men in the US and EU.
The blowback is too consistent to be anything other than by design.
Why is “World Destruction” by Time Zone playing?
https://blowback.show/
There is a sign on a restaurant called Dacha in SF,I saw today , with the colours of Ukraine sic or a flag. That reads something like, Stand with Ukraine, or we support Ukraine , whenever I see any kind of sickening flags of Ukraine, sometimes freshly replaced. I have to ask myself, what exactly do they mean by that?
Then too didn't illenskies in one of his countless cocaine crazed rants threaten something exactly like what you wrote this article about, blowback, whatever he called it...
Finally, tis no mystery that and why the West supoorta this sort of behavior, they clearly want it to occur , like all the false flags , those who Let It Happen On Purpose, LIHOP, clearly hope to get some benefits, like passing legislation that would otherwise have been unthinkable....
Unthinkable was an operation against Russia , or to keep the Nazies operating, against Russia.
Or maybe to explode nukes in Russia...
I am no research scholar, but the shit smells bad and stinky and sticks to ones spirit
I have been noticing an uptick in the stab in back thinking amongst Ukrainian cadres and military bloggers. Sometimes explicit but always an implicit tinge to commentary as things visibly worsen on the battle front. Typically acknowledging the skill and competency of the enemy and their own plight while expressing disgust at western authorities saying that Ukrainian forces are overwhelming the Russians.
It's easier to say than that they were duped and spent like a prepaid card... But it's not even completely wrong, is it 🤔🧐😁
Solution: Execute them wherever they are found. No trials, just two bullets in the brain.
Great piece, I'd never heard of the ARVN stuff. Re: US support for Ukrainian nationalists, it actually began as early as 1943 - far before the end of the war - per Jeffrey Burds (see his article : "The Early Cold War in Soviet West Ukraine, 1944–1948"). Also, your link for Ukrainian spies being inserted into Cuba redirects straight back to this stack. Do you have a source for that cause I'd love to read it.
From the point of view of the CIA and empire in general, the blowback is more a feature than a bug.
Take 9/11 - manageable and provided an excuse for an excellent Afghan adventure, not to mention provided impetus for renewing the War On Iraq.
As we speak, there is an ongoing purge of several top Zelensky cronies in Kiev - done by means of the US/NATO controlled NABU (Ukraine's national anti-corruption bureau).
Perhaps we shouldn't be surprised that this "housecleaning" totally bypasses the ultranationalist wing of the power structure.
To be totally clear, these are violent ideologues who idolize murderous WWII war criminals such as Bandera/Shukhevich. They glorify the early days of their movement when they were Nazi-collaborators, embrace white supremacist ideology and terrorist methods. Such is the consistent pattern of who it is the US picks as proxies.
More likely, we can expect the State Dept will promise these thugs a ticket to the states and a comfy retirement, if they should lose the war. Just like the examples above. Their mission today is very simply to prolong the conflict until Ukraine's exhaustion, since the US, NATO, and EU have no intention whatever to provide manpower at scale. A settlement, even a fraudulent one like a Minsk III, might be embarrassing to the US. Ukraine's exhaustion will come sooner or later, and the promise to bring home these criminal "operators" will have to be fulfilled.
Of course present day US gov is already adopting an overtly fascist form - with barely trained DHS goons summarily detaining people who they reckon look different from themselves. They're supporting genocide in broad daylight in Gaza. So one shouldn't expect even the tiniest concern by today's decision makers.
I suppose people outside the US thinking of moving here, who aren't criminals themselves, should think twice.
Afghanistan just keeps on giving... Best regards from CIA!
https://voza0db.substack.com/p/morons-just-dont-get-it-1c9
And we can only wait for the Ukranistanian NAZIS to do the same in USofT soil once the newest PROFIT Party ends.
I can only say... DO ENJOY IT.
This a seminal piece of research. Impressive. I think you missed to say a word about the triple A, the anticommunist league and some others. They are certainly still active.
UCSD Prof. Chal Johnson's "Blowback" trilogy comes to mind - been a very long time since I read those. The first book was published in 2000. One of my grad school profs was influenced by Chal's work, and mentioned him in seminars, which is how I first heard of him.
RF and PRC I'm sure are extremely aware of the danger of "post-conflict" (when is that? I don't see the conflict ending for the next 75 years, at least - it might go into LIC, a la Kashmir, but I don't see it ending. And that does not include Gladio, P2, and those kinds of activities - that stuff will go on forever" "black on black", "black on white") of large pools of aggrieved men basically causing mayhem and chaos all over the world, for some combination of M.I.C.E.R+.
The interesting thing about all the examples in the article, though, is that the continental US (+ Hawaii) has not yet paid a very high price, other than 9/11 (and leaving aside LIHOP, MIHOP, etc.). Moreover, the faction(s) of elites currently calling (most of) the shots are not affected even if there are some lives lost, some disruption, etc. It does not impact their daily lives, and some level of disorder/chaos even continually increases their net worth.
This crew, it seems to me, takes the approach of "let's have them inside the tent pissing out" - so pay them generously to sow chaos and mayhem outside the US; keep a close eye on all the players, especially the leaders/smart ones; terminate the ones that go rogue and/or who want/try to do anything in the US. Of course, there will always be some "leakage". When it happens, there are a variety of options: (a) claim it was a Muslim terrorist; (b) Russian/pro-Russian terrorist; (c) disgruntled postal worker/other.
'We say Fort Liberty now, dont we?'
Excellent post. I presume that you are familiar with the Fort Bragg Cartel by Seth Harp? This is very much in the same vein.