The Israeli goal was indeed to create regime destruction and not change (you need troops on the ground for Regime Change). The problem is that they probably had a three day window to devastate the Iranian Regime so much that Iranians lost faith in it and society (with its ethnic schisms it was hoped) would break apart. The problem is that the population seem to have rallied around the Regime (no matter how unpopular it is - part of what I call the 'Stalin Paradox') and the Regime managed to organize and fight back. The longer the time goes on it is most likely to increasingly advantage the Iranians against the Israelis in an attritional war that Israel is not geared for.
Having failed, Natanyahu desperately needs to get the US involved to save Israel from its own strategic failure and himself from a fall in his Government and ending up in a jail cell for corruption. When it looked as if there was spectacular success in the early days, Trump was all in, until evidence showed it had not worked. Now Trump, often implosive and indecisive, is having to step back - especially as Iran is demonstrating surprising power against Israel. Possibly the last person to talk to him will win the argument.
Should Trump decide to attack Iran, it will not stay at bombing but the need to ultimately commit ground troops to save US assets in the region. If this is the case, then the longer the war would go on, the more temptation the Russians and Chinese have of fighting their own proxy war against the West. For Russia, to divert Western material support from Ukraine to elsewhere as the US calls on its Western allies to assist it. And for China, to further weaken the US and delay any build up of US forces in the Pacific against it.
"Israel is claiming that its strategic goal is to eliminate Iranian nuclear capability. Everyone seems to accept that they haven't done this."
Everyone knows that "Iranian nuclear capability" is but a pretext. Israel's real goal is to get the United State to turn Iran into a failed state, like the United States turned Iraq, Libya and Syria into failed states, in each case, at Israel's behest.
On the contrary, my dear Finster. Israel is getting nowhere. The USA seems on the verge of an epic miscalculation that will accelerate its geopolitical decline. We should all cheer that one. ‘Game on’ as the foul Lindsey Graham opined - just not in the way he intended. Go Iran!!!!
Well Finster, we certainly have heard and are now hearing regular proclamations of impending victory from the stumbling Empire, that’s for sure. US hasn’t won a war since 1945, with the exception of the Kuwait Turkey shoot, just recently lost one with Ansrallah, and is currently losing one huge in Ukraine. Israel still can’t beat Hamas after 20 months, in a tiny war zone 25miles x 5miles. These guys talk big, but deliver nothing. Now they are gonna conquer Iran - with all the cards it still holds? Good luck with that🫣
Welcome back - a brief but well balanced article.
The Israeli goal was indeed to create regime destruction and not change (you need troops on the ground for Regime Change). The problem is that they probably had a three day window to devastate the Iranian Regime so much that Iranians lost faith in it and society (with its ethnic schisms it was hoped) would break apart. The problem is that the population seem to have rallied around the Regime (no matter how unpopular it is - part of what I call the 'Stalin Paradox') and the Regime managed to organize and fight back. The longer the time goes on it is most likely to increasingly advantage the Iranians against the Israelis in an attritional war that Israel is not geared for.
Having failed, Natanyahu desperately needs to get the US involved to save Israel from its own strategic failure and himself from a fall in his Government and ending up in a jail cell for corruption. When it looked as if there was spectacular success in the early days, Trump was all in, until evidence showed it had not worked. Now Trump, often implosive and indecisive, is having to step back - especially as Iran is demonstrating surprising power against Israel. Possibly the last person to talk to him will win the argument.
Should Trump decide to attack Iran, it will not stay at bombing but the need to ultimately commit ground troops to save US assets in the region. If this is the case, then the longer the war would go on, the more temptation the Russians and Chinese have of fighting their own proxy war against the West. For Russia, to divert Western material support from Ukraine to elsewhere as the US calls on its Western allies to assist it. And for China, to further weaken the US and delay any build up of US forces in the Pacific against it.
"Israel is claiming that its strategic goal is to eliminate Iranian nuclear capability. Everyone seems to accept that they haven't done this."
Everyone knows that "Iranian nuclear capability" is but a pretext. Israel's real goal is to get the United State to turn Iran into a failed state, like the United States turned Iraq, Libya and Syria into failed states, in each case, at Israel's behest.
This goal is preceding apace.
On the contrary, my dear Finster. Israel is getting nowhere. The USA seems on the verge of an epic miscalculation that will accelerate its geopolitical decline. We should all cheer that one. ‘Game on’ as the foul Lindsey Graham opined - just not in the way he intended. Go Iran!!!!
Well Finster, we certainly have heard and are now hearing regular proclamations of impending victory from the stumbling Empire, that’s for sure. US hasn’t won a war since 1945, with the exception of the Kuwait Turkey shoot, just recently lost one with Ansrallah, and is currently losing one huge in Ukraine. Israel still can’t beat Hamas after 20 months, in a tiny war zone 25miles x 5miles. These guys talk big, but deliver nothing. Now they are gonna conquer Iran - with all the cards it still holds? Good luck with that🫣
I hope that you prove correct, but we've heard such confident proclamations of impending victory before.